July 29, 2025
167: The Dragon Rise Murders Part 01
Not long after 9 PM on that Sunday night, in the sleepy new-build development of Dragon Rise, the back door security light of Jennifer and Stephen Chapple’s home flicked on. Their two boys aged 5 and 6 years old had been put to bed hours before and were sleeping soundly upstairs.
36-year-old Stephen was a well-loved IT teacher at West Somerset College. It was a secondary school in Minehead in Somerset, 23 miles away from his home in Dragon Rise. His wife 33-year-old Jennifer worked as a Customer Service Advisor at the coffee shop of the popular Otter Garden Centre in Norton Fitzwarren. At that time on a Sunday night, they were probably thinking about preparing for bed themselves. They had no idea what was about to explode into their home.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are the gunny inches?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whereabouts if you didn't stabs?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, not me, the night is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The neighbors didn't stab by hit you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Why may?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've stabbed both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they still conscious and breathing?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's your name?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Colin Reeves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, listener.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take a seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next to the fire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Obscura, where we shine a light on the dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the afternoon of Sunday, November, twenty-first, two thousand twenty-one, the beautiful town of Tornton, and Somerset, northwest England, held its annual Christmas lights switch on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Families arrived in the town center with their young children, to watch as the bright festive lights came to life, biting up the buildings around them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tradition many families enjoy together each year, but that day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark the end of family life for two families in, in a small village called Norton Fitzwarren.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just outside Torton, aase of extreme explosive violence would result in two people losing their lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Young children left orphaned, and one man facing criminal trial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for double murder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not long after nine p.m.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on that Sunday night, the sleeping new build development of Dragon Rise, the back door security light of Jennifer and Stephen Champels home flipped on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their two boys aged five and six years old had been put to bed hours before, and were sleeping soundly upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty-six-year-old Stephen was a well-loved IT teacher at West Somerset College.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a secondary school in mine head and Somerset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty-three miles away from his home and dragon rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His wife, thirty-three-year-old Jennifer, worked as a customer service advisor at the coffee shop of the popular Otter Garden Center in Northern Fitzwarren.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At that time on a Sunday night, they were probably thinking about preparing for bed themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That no idea what was about to explode into their homes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seconds after the security light illuminated their backyard, surrounded by neatly painted brown fence panels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A man's always screeched out into the night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: terrified screams would follow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For five to ten seconds, the screams continued to shrill and echo before silence replaced them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a terrifying silence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean Hunt lived next door to the champels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew the couple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were friendly and chatty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was never anything like this coming from their home before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He sent a text message to Jennifer asking if she was all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get a response.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He sent another message this time to Tim and Emma slow calm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all so neighbors of the Champels to see if they had heard the screams and
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[SPEAKER_01]: New home was going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All three came out of their homes and walked a few paces to the chapel's front door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John spotted a tissue on the pavement covered in what looked like blood, and then began knocking on the chapel's front door, feeling more and more uneasy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When no one answered in, she could hear no noise from inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She tried the door handle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was unlocked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She stepped inside and into the living room of the home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her husband closed behind her, and front of them lay a scene of bloodshed, Jennifer was slumped on the couch, silent, and not moving, as Emma repeatedly called her name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She began registering the pools of blood around and on her body, Tim ran over to Stephen Chapel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was lying on the floor, closer to the back door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He too was covered in blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As Tim reached out to check for a pulse, Emma rang nine nine nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for it to get some help for our neighbors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moments later, a man who neither of them knew ran through the front door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked at the scene and began to shout for everyone to get out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was angry and aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim tried to tell him they needed to help these people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The man told him there was no point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The couple were already dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The man snatched the phone from Emma's hand and began shouting at the ambulance dispatcher, demanding to know where they were and why they were taking so long to arrive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Emma and Tim backed out of the house, shocked and traumatized at what they had just witnessed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer and Stephen Chappell's two sons were upstairs in the house, woken by the commotion downstairs as their parents' killer, and entered their home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were too young to have any idea what they were listening to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would be found distressed by, physically on her, moments later, by police officers in medical personnel as they flooded Dragon Ryan's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Immediately to the right of Chappell's home, was the house of Colin Reeves and his wife, Kaylee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They also had two young children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alan was a lorry driver, after leaving the highly regarded twenty-four commando unit of the Royal Army in two thousand seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Earlier that day he had taken his daughters to the Christmas lights switch on with his mom and sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all enjoyed the trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once back home at about five p.m.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin had put his daughters to bed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were tensions between Colin and Kaylee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had been getting worse in recent months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kaylee had been home that night and they had argued after the children were in bed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They hadn't been getting on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were snappy with each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Short tempered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Quick to argue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kaylee had become increasingly unhappy in the marriage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was wondering whether they should have a break in, sometime apart to assess what they really wanted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not enjoy living in Dragon Rice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a smallest state that was friendly and neighborly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two rows of neatly painted attached homes, sat facing each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The small patch of front garden, and a designated parking space each, painted a bright white with a small decorative door overhang above each front door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were modern houses, perfect for small families.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The parking or, my covet, was one area that frustrated the residents of this cozy development.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Each home had just one located parking space outside their door, but many families had more than one vehicle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This man residents often had to park on the road, or if their cars were small, try to squeeze both into one parking spot, nose to tail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both the Reeves family and the Chapples had a car each, and were able to park outside their own house as easily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the end of the year, Jennifer Chapple passed her driving test, and excitedly got her own car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Chapples went from a one car household to a two car, and suddenly, Archie became a little more complicated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The two families initially got on very well with each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both had children and Kaylee and Jennifer would bump into each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the school run, during the COVID breakdown in the end of the year, they would exchange text messages about the school and the children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Helping each other out where they could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one could have predicted how this would come to play a role in the appalling events that would occur less than a year later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the night of November, twenty first had a round APM, Kaylee told Colin she wanted a two-week trial separation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had enough of the rows in the tension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She felt that things needed to change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was not news he wanted to hear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As Kaylee watched television upstairs, Colin sat on the stairs and cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before going downstairs to the living room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Less than an hour later, Kaylee would hear screams ring out from the chapel's home next door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Startled and confused.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She went downstairs and into her living room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin wasn't there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the floor was a display frame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They usually sat pride of place on the wall of that room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Inside were some pictures of Colin from his army days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In two thousand ten he had undertaken and passed the Guru in thirteen week, all armed commando course, who achieved his greatly respected green brahe, passing those tests, and becoming a royal marine commando was no easy feat, with those images inside the frame was a ceremonial dagger given to him when he left the army.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The dagger was the emblem of the commandos, as Kaylee looked at the remnants of the frame on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She could see the dagger was missing, and she knew the implications.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Annaked at what her husband might have done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She called his mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lynn Reeves, telling her about the screens, about the dagger that her husband was in in the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moments after she hung up, Colin walked in the back door, and a glaze looking as I, his hands were covered in blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He grabbed the house phone, went to the living room, and he shut the door behind him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's husband and the mother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, where are you at the moment?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Dragon Royce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Royce is that dragon Royce?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where did the incident happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where did the incident happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Dragon Royce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And do you say for the moment?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's got any injuries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whereabouts have you been stabbed?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, not me, the natives.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The neighbors have stopped by here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And where are they?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they in their house?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I fell in the line for me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How bad are the injuries?
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[SPEAKER_05]: They've been stopped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Several times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I fell in the line for me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you in your house on your own?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me exactly what's happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take a deep breath.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I went wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_05]: With a knife.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I'll just grab both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, how many times?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I don't know, a couple of times each not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Two or three times each maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they still conscious and breathing?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, are you at home now?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And are they male for females?
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[SPEAKER_05]: One male for females.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, stay on the phone to me, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's your name?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Colin Reeves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Colin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How are you spelling a surname?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the movie, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and do you say your wife is with you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you say your wife fits with you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What kind of nice did you use?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was so good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just down the line for me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get some help out there as soon as we can.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Down the line for me, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How long have you go to this happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have already moved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I can.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Claudia, just found the line to me, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get some help out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you've set them both several times?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where's the knife now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is my house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've done the right thing by calling as okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, just found the line for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: just getting some detail down on the logo, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened when you left?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was the situation when you left?
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[SPEAKER_05]: He spoke about how he was lying on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He was shooting lying on the sofa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And were they awake?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Were they?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think they were sort of stressed him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And were you in the gym?
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[SPEAKER_05]: In the living room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While Kaylee was upstairs watching TV, Colin Reeves had carefully removed his dagger from the frame on the wall and left his house by the back door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: CCTV camera footage would show him climbing up and over the panel fence that separated his backyard from the chapel's next door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The chapel's security camera captured their killer creeping toward their back door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was crouched low and moved quietly and carefully.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Setting off the motion sensor security light as he approached, the Jeffle's black and white cat, startled by the sudden bright light, darted away from the door, and down the length of the garden in panic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In Collins' hand, is a large dagger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the back door, he moves the handle downward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The door opens and he burst into their home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The audio recording caught his cries as he charged the unsuspecting couple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Die fuckers die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He screamed as he began to stab them over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer chappled and not have time to get to her feet from the sofa before she was attacked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To stab six times to her shoulder, an upper chest, her heart, and a major blood vessel, both impaled by the knife, as Reeves plunged it repeatedly into her body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven Chapel was also stabbed six times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was close to the back door when he was attacked unable to reach safety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When the couple were no longer moving or showing any signs of life, Alan Chapel would left their home, climbed back over to his own garden, and in through the back door,
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[SPEAKER_01]: While Colin was in the living room on the phone to the emergency services, Galey had called Lynn back horrified at what was happening, Lynn and Colin's dad Brian rushed around to their son's home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The nine nine nine call with Colin lasted over ten minutes before emergency services could get to dragon rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin was heard on the recording telling his mom in the background he couldn't let them torment Kaylee anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that time Brian Reeves had gone next to himself to see what had happened and totaled disbelief at what his son was saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Brian who had entered the chapel's home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While Emma and Tim were there and shouted at them to leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they were meant to be survived, they immediately began trying to save the wives of Jennifer and Stephen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their rooms were deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Extensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both had lost a lot of blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were barely hanging onto life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next door at the Reeves home, the police brought Colin outside to play some under arrest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As he was led out the front door, the emergency vehicles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blue lights flashing an activity behind him at the chapel home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Reeves was on their heels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin can be heard telling him to go back inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: After his arrest at the scene, Colin was taken to the custody suite of the police station.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When asked, he gave his name as Lance Corporal Reeves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before stating his service number, he appeared confused and unsure why he was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The custody officer did his best to explain to him exactly why he had been placed under arrest.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Put your hands up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Make him do it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Put your hands up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Hold still.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Listen.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You're under arrest at the minute.
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[SPEAKER_08]: On the attempt in murder.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Two people inside the address next door.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Do you understand?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Let's walk over here, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'll go away.
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[SPEAKER_08]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Go sorted.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We probably have to take him like that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Just do my job.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you need to speak to a customer?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you need to speak to a customer?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you need to speak to a customer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Reeves had also been arrested at the scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With reports from the neighbors of this aggressive behavior inside the crime scene, officers at that point didn't know who was involved in this horrific stabbing, and who wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer and Stephen Chappell's injuries were too severe for them to survive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were pronounced deceased at the scene, loving and happy couple, and parents to two young boys who had been viciously murdered inside their own home, while their sons lay asleep upstairs,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two innocent children were now orphans, never to see their mom and dad again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the police station, Colin Reeves' clothes had been carefully removed for forensic testing, and his fingerprints had been taken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was now with investigating officers in an interview room for a formal interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By what had happened at Dragonrise, the camera mounted high in the corner of the room, pointed at the seat now occupied by Colin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a gray police issued track suit, replacing the black T-shirt and jeans he was wearing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin sat forward, Ed Bawd with his elbows on his knees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look up as the officer began to question him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the final question, his hands moved to cover his face as he offered a mumbled and almost inaudible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No comment.
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[SPEAKER_06]: First, let just need to ask you, when you were arrested and bought into custody, when you were being assessed in the custody unit here, you said to the custody nurse, I shouldn't have done it, I've ruined their lives in mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Can I just confirm, did you say that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And what did you mean by that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, common and as much detail as possible, tell me what happened yesterday in Dragon Rise that led to the deaths of Jennifer and Stephen Chappell.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Explain to me exactly what happened inside Dragon Rise.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Did you kill Jennifer and Stephen?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I've got no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How were you involved in their deaths?
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's it for this episode be sure to tune in next time to hear the conclusion thank you for listening and keep the fire burning
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are the gunny inches?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whereabouts if you didn't stabs?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, not me, the night is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The neighbors didn't stab by hit you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Why may?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've stabbed both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they still conscious and breathing?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's your name?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Colin Reeves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, listener.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take a seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next to the fire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Obscura, where we shine a light on the dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the afternoon of Sunday, November, twenty-first, two thousand twenty-one, the beautiful town of Tornton, and Somerset, northwest England, held its annual Christmas lights switch on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Families arrived in the town center with their young children, to watch as the bright festive lights came to life, biting up the buildings around them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tradition many families enjoy together each year, but that day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark the end of family life for two families in, in a small village called Norton Fitzwarren.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just outside Torton, aase of extreme explosive violence would result in two people losing their lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Young children left orphaned, and one man facing criminal trial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for double murder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not long after nine p.m.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on that Sunday night, the sleeping new build development of Dragon Rise, the back door security light of Jennifer and Stephen Champels home flipped on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their two boys aged five and six years old had been put to bed hours before, and were sleeping soundly upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty-six-year-old Stephen was a well-loved IT teacher at West Somerset College.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a secondary school in mine head and Somerset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty-three miles away from his home and dragon rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His wife, thirty-three-year-old Jennifer, worked as a customer service advisor at the coffee shop of the popular Otter Garden Center in Northern Fitzwarren.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At that time on a Sunday night, they were probably thinking about preparing for bed themselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That no idea what was about to explode into their homes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seconds after the security light illuminated their backyard, surrounded by neatly painted brown fence panels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A man's always screeched out into the night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: terrified screams would follow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For five to ten seconds, the screams continued to shrill and echo before silence replaced them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a terrifying silence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean Hunt lived next door to the champels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew the couple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were friendly and chatty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was never anything like this coming from their home before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He sent a text message to Jennifer asking if she was all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get a response.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He sent another message this time to Tim and Emma slow calm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all so neighbors of the Champels to see if they had heard the screams and
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[SPEAKER_01]: New home was going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All three came out of their homes and walked a few paces to the chapel's front door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John spotted a tissue on the pavement covered in what looked like blood, and then began knocking on the chapel's front door, feeling more and more uneasy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When no one answered in, she could hear no noise from inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She tried the door handle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was unlocked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She stepped inside and into the living room of the home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her husband closed behind her, and front of them lay a scene of bloodshed, Jennifer was slumped on the couch, silent, and not moving, as Emma repeatedly called her name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She began registering the pools of blood around and on her body, Tim ran over to Stephen Chapel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was lying on the floor, closer to the back door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He too was covered in blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As Tim reached out to check for a pulse, Emma rang nine nine nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for it to get some help for our neighbors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moments later, a man who neither of them knew ran through the front door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked at the scene and began to shout for everyone to get out of the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was angry and aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim tried to tell him they needed to help these people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The man told him there was no point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The couple were already dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The man snatched the phone from Emma's hand and began shouting at the ambulance dispatcher, demanding to know where they were and why they were taking so long to arrive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Emma and Tim backed out of the house, shocked and traumatized at what they had just witnessed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer and Stephen Chappell's two sons were upstairs in the house, woken by the commotion downstairs as their parents' killer, and entered their home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were too young to have any idea what they were listening to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They would be found distressed by, physically on her, moments later, by police officers in medical personnel as they flooded Dragon Ryan's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Immediately to the right of Chappell's home, was the house of Colin Reeves and his wife, Kaylee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They also had two young children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alan was a lorry driver, after leaving the highly regarded twenty-four commando unit of the Royal Army in two thousand seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Earlier that day he had taken his daughters to the Christmas lights switch on with his mom and sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And all enjoyed the trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once back home at about five p.m.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin had put his daughters to bed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were tensions between Colin and Kaylee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had been getting worse in recent months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kaylee had been home that night and they had argued after the children were in bed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They hadn't been getting on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were snappy with each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Short tempered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Quick to argue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kaylee had become increasingly unhappy in the marriage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was wondering whether they should have a break in, sometime apart to assess what they really wanted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not enjoy living in Dragon Rice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a smallest state that was friendly and neighborly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two rows of neatly painted attached homes, sat facing each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The small patch of front garden, and a designated parking space each, painted a bright white with a small decorative door overhang above each front door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were modern houses, perfect for small families.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The parking or, my covet, was one area that frustrated the residents of this cozy development.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Each home had just one located parking space outside their door, but many families had more than one vehicle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This man residents often had to park on the road, or if their cars were small, try to squeeze both into one parking spot, nose to tail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both the Reeves family and the Chapples had a car each, and were able to park outside their own house as easily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the end of the year, Jennifer Chapple passed her driving test, and excitedly got her own car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Chapples went from a one car household to a two car, and suddenly, Archie became a little more complicated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The two families initially got on very well with each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both had children and Kaylee and Jennifer would bump into each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the school run, during the COVID breakdown in the end of the year, they would exchange text messages about the school and the children.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Helping each other out where they could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May, in May,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one could have predicted how this would come to play a role in the appalling events that would occur less than a year later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the night of November, twenty first had a round APM, Kaylee told Colin she wanted a two-week trial separation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had enough of the rows in the tension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She felt that things needed to change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was not news he wanted to hear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As Kaylee watched television upstairs, Colin sat on the stairs and cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before going downstairs to the living room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Less than an hour later, Kaylee would hear screams ring out from the chapel's home next door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Startled and confused.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She went downstairs and into her living room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin wasn't there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the floor was a display frame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They usually sat pride of place on the wall of that room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Inside were some pictures of Colin from his army days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In two thousand ten he had undertaken and passed the Guru in thirteen week, all armed commando course, who achieved his greatly respected green brahe, passing those tests, and becoming a royal marine commando was no easy feat, with those images inside the frame was a ceremonial dagger given to him when he left the army.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The dagger was the emblem of the commandos, as Kaylee looked at the remnants of the frame on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She could see the dagger was missing, and she knew the implications.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Annaked at what her husband might have done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She called his mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lynn Reeves, telling her about the screens, about the dagger that her husband was in in the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Moments after she hung up, Colin walked in the back door, and a glaze looking as I, his hands were covered in blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He grabbed the house phone, went to the living room, and he shut the door behind him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's husband and the mother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, where are you at the moment?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Dragon Royce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Royce is that dragon Royce?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where did the incident happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where did the incident happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Dragon Royce.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And do you say for the moment?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's got any injuries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whereabouts have you been stabbed?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, not me, the natives.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The neighbors have stopped by here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And where are they?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they in their house?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I fell in the line for me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How bad are the injuries?
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[SPEAKER_05]: They've been stopped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Several times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I fell in the line for me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you in your house on your own?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me exactly what's happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Take a deep breath.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I went wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_05]: With a knife.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I'll just grab both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, how many times?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I don't know, a couple of times each not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Two or three times each maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are they still conscious and breathing?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think so, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, are you at home now?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And are they male for females?
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[SPEAKER_05]: One male for females.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, stay on the phone to me, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's your name?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Colin Reeves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Colin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How are you spelling a surname?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the movie, yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and do you say your wife is with you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you say your wife fits with you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What kind of nice did you use?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was so good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just down the line for me, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get some help out there as soon as we can.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Down the line for me, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How long have you go to this happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have already moved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I can.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Claudia, just found the line to me, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get some help out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you've set them both several times?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where's the knife now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is my house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've done the right thing by calling as okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, just found the line for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: just getting some detail down on the logo, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened when you left?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was the situation when you left?
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[SPEAKER_05]: He spoke about how he was lying on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He was shooting lying on the sofa.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And were they awake?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Were they?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think they were sort of stressed him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And were you in the gym?
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[SPEAKER_05]: In the living room.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While Kaylee was upstairs watching TV, Colin Reeves had carefully removed his dagger from the frame on the wall and left his house by the back door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: CCTV camera footage would show him climbing up and over the panel fence that separated his backyard from the chapel's next door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The chapel's security camera captured their killer creeping toward their back door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was crouched low and moved quietly and carefully.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Setting off the motion sensor security light as he approached, the Jeffle's black and white cat, startled by the sudden bright light, darted away from the door, and down the length of the garden in panic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In Collins' hand, is a large dagger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the back door, he moves the handle downward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The door opens and he burst into their home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The audio recording caught his cries as he charged the unsuspecting couple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Die fuckers die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He screamed as he began to stab them over and over again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer chappled and not have time to get to her feet from the sofa before she was attacked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To stab six times to her shoulder, an upper chest, her heart, and a major blood vessel, both impaled by the knife, as Reeves plunged it repeatedly into her body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven Chapel was also stabbed six times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was close to the back door when he was attacked unable to reach safety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When the couple were no longer moving or showing any signs of life, Alan Chapel would left their home, climbed back over to his own garden, and in through the back door,
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[SPEAKER_01]: While Colin was in the living room on the phone to the emergency services, Galey had called Lynn back horrified at what was happening, Lynn and Colin's dad Brian rushed around to their son's home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The nine nine nine call with Colin lasted over ten minutes before emergency services could get to dragon rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin was heard on the recording telling his mom in the background he couldn't let them torment Kaylee anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that time Brian Reeves had gone next to himself to see what had happened and totaled disbelief at what his son was saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Brian who had entered the chapel's home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While Emma and Tim were there and shouted at them to leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they were meant to be survived, they immediately began trying to save the wives of Jennifer and Stephen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Their rooms were deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Extensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both had lost a lot of blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were barely hanging onto life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next door at the Reeves home, the police brought Colin outside to play some under arrest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As he was led out the front door, the emergency vehicles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blue lights flashing an activity behind him at the chapel home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Reeves was on their heels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin can be heard telling him to go back inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: After his arrest at the scene, Colin was taken to the custody suite of the police station.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When asked, he gave his name as Lance Corporal Reeves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before stating his service number, he appeared confused and unsure why he was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The custody officer did his best to explain to him exactly why he had been placed under arrest.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Put your hands up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Make him do it.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Put your hands up.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Hold still.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Listen.
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[SPEAKER_08]: You're under arrest at the minute.
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[SPEAKER_08]: On the attempt in murder.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Two people inside the address next door.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Do you understand?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Let's walk over here, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'll go away.
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[SPEAKER_08]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_08]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Go sorted.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, man
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[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We probably have to take him like that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Just do my job.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you need to speak to a customer?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you need to speak to a customer?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Do you need to speak to a customer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Reeves had also been arrested at the scene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With reports from the neighbors of this aggressive behavior inside the crime scene, officers at that point didn't know who was involved in this horrific stabbing, and who wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer and Stephen Chappell's injuries were too severe for them to survive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were pronounced deceased at the scene, loving and happy couple, and parents to two young boys who had been viciously murdered inside their own home, while their sons lay asleep upstairs,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two innocent children were now orphans, never to see their mom and dad again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the police station, Colin Reeves' clothes had been carefully removed for forensic testing, and his fingerprints had been taken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was now with investigating officers in an interview room for a formal interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By what had happened at Dragonrise, the camera mounted high in the corner of the room, pointed at the seat now occupied by Colin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a gray police issued track suit, replacing the black T-shirt and jeans he was wearing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin sat forward, Ed Bawd with his elbows on his knees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look up as the officer began to question him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the final question, his hands moved to cover his face as he offered a mumbled and almost inaudible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No comment.
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[SPEAKER_06]: First, let just need to ask you, when you were arrested and bought into custody, when you were being assessed in the custody unit here, you said to the custody nurse, I shouldn't have done it, I've ruined their lives in mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Can I just confirm, did you say that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And what did you mean by that?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, common and as much detail as possible, tell me what happened yesterday in Dragon Rise that led to the deaths of Jennifer and Stephen Chappell.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Explain to me exactly what happened inside Dragon Rise.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Did you kill Jennifer and Stephen?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I've got no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How were you involved in their deaths?
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's it for this episode be sure to tune in next time to hear the conclusion thank you for listening and keep the fire burning
