170: Hunted - The Butcher Baker Part 02

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, listener.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you're here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Take a seat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Next to the fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Obscura where we shine a light on the dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seventeen-year-old Megan Amorek was a student at the Sword Skills Center, which has since been renamed the Elaskan Vocational Technical Center.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sword is a two-hour drive south of Anchorage, east of the Cani Fior at National Park on the Cani Peninsula.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Megan was born and raised in Delta Junction, Alaska.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's been her time riding horses and motorcycles, listening to rock music and fishing and hunting on Yukon River.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Megan was last seen leaving her dormitory laundry room on July seven, nineteen seventy-three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: After three days of trying to track her down, Megan's roommate reported her missing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Megan had no known record of trouble.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All of her personal belongings including her ID were left behind.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At the time of Megan's disappearance, Robert was on parole for his attack on Susan Heppard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: for a record show that he was ensured on the weekend that Megan disappeared.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Other records also showed that at this time Robert owned a large boat, which he mourned at the sewer docks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Only an eleven minute walk from the Stuart Skill Center, where Megan was last seen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert used his thirty-six-fuck cabin cruiser to fish in the Stuart area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He learned to scuba dive by taking some time or seen man on the docks out on his boat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Making Emma Redquist never seen again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And her body has never been found.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But police believe she may be buried in Resurrection Bay near Seward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Two years after Megan's disappearance, twenty-two-year-old Mary Phil when missing on July fifth, nineteen seventy-five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Megan, Mary was also a student and a sewered skill center, believed on lower-point road.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mary's parents bolted when she was still in high school, leaving the children in the family orphaned.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Despite this hardship, Mary was known always to be smiling and friendly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In a large circle of friends, was a capable student and was crowned high school prom queen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By the summer of nineteen seventy-five, Mary was married.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And her husband was working in the north-slub region of the state.

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[SPEAKER_03]: On the trains' last combined, on the day Mary disappeared, a friend gave her a ride to the steward bakery.

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[SPEAKER_03]: degree, and downtown, Stewart, which was also a three-minute drive away from the nearest Beaulange for those who wanted to head out and enjoy the water.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Another friend reported seeing Mary between one thirty and two p.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: a day, and then the wall creaked waterfall, ten minute walk south of the bakery.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was completely unlike Mary to disappear without her forming anyone where she was going.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Her devastated husband returned from the north

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[SPEAKER_03]: A very disappearance, thirty-six-year-old Robert Hansen was still on parole for the attack on Susan Happard in late-nineteen-seventy-one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: On the weekend that married disappeared, Robert's full record showed that he traveled south to Seward and had access to a vehicle during his stay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Prior to departing Anchorage, Robert

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[SPEAKER_03]: party with ensured.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Megan Emerick, Barry was never seen again after that fourth July weekend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And while her body has never been found, she too has believed to have been buried at Resurrection Bay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: On October fifth, in nineteen seventy five, the acreage rape and assault center reported to police that a twenty-eight year old woman had reportedly been abducted and raped by a man a week earlier on September twenty-eighth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The woman and mentor of Salem at the kick hat club one evening where she worked as an exotic dancer and given him her telephone number.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The woman said that the man called her home on September twenty eighth and arranged to me her at the four-consumed restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When the woman arrived to meet the man, he pulled a gun on her, which she described as a large semi-automatic pistol.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man forced the woman into his vehicle, which she

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[SPEAKER_03]: She described as a dark red in nineteen seventy four seventy five foreign station wagon with a black interior.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The woman said the man then drove her to two-he-act state park, re-raped her and told her that if she did not do as she was told, he would kill her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man told the woman that he and a friend both worked on the pipeline, and they were also both raping women in the acreage area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man also told the woman that if she were bored into the police, she wouldn't be a credible witness, because she was an exotic dancer and sex worker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The woman described the man as Caucasian, approximately thirty years old, five foot eight tall within average filled.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Short brownish font hair, blue eyes, wearing wire rims glasses, and having a slain stutter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The woman had sworn staff to secrecy in the rape and assault center concerning her name, and said that she would not talk to police herself out of fear for her life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Given his prior record, police interviewed Robert Hanson on October fourteen, in nineteen seventy-five, but he denied abducting or raping anyone on September twenty-eighth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sitting down that day, he was fishing in the steward area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert did say that he had met a tall dark hair girl and the kid caught the previous summer while his family was on vacation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And after a brief conversation with her, a pair of green to go back to where the girl was staying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert said that as he was driving along, the girl told him it would cost one hundred dollars.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But some set of Robert claimed it wasn't a part of the deal, so he drove her back to the kidcat club.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert told police this girl became angry with

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't take any action in response.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert denied owning any pistol sound the basis that his previous firearm conviction prevented him from doing so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When I'm over sixteen nineteen seventy five, the woman positively identified the photograph of her sailing as Robert Hanson.

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[SPEAKER_03]: However, she still refused to be identified to police.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Talk to them directly or file any charges.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The woman, a school teacher, would come to Alaska to make a quick

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[SPEAKER_03]: was humiliated and wanted to put the whole thing behind her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert was questioned based on the license plate number, woman and provided, without charge being pressed, he was free to go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert's for all period regarding the attack on Susan Hebert ended in nineteen seventy six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The early November of that year, security guard at Fred Myers department store in Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Call Robert shoplifting a chain saw thirty seven year old Robert was charged with larceny, but expressed from horse saying, I know what I did was wrong, and I'm very sorry for doing so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert, who was already taking a drug Thorazine, was open with psychiatrists to buy his venture for stealing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was noted that he demonstrated poor impulse control during many episodes of his illness.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Club Dominion, which is defined as the uncontrollable impulse to steal, without economic need.

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[SPEAKER_03]: His next example of how bipolar disorder can manifest in some people with illness.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In April, in the name of the name of the name of the name of the name of the name of the name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert Psychiatrist believed that the best safeguard against Robert's bipolar disorder contributing to reoffending was continued treatment and is engaged with an active member of the community.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The sendencing judge considered Robert's rehabilitation potential.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He fell Robert opposed the danger to the community during his manic episodes and thought it appropriate for him to continue to be isolated.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert was sentenced to five years in prison on the provision that he'd be eligible for parole and there really is possible date.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he received psychiatric treatment to assist his transition back into the community.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Despite this being Robert started

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[SPEAKER_03]: On the basis that it was a property offense, the Hanus solid family and bully men in financial background, and a promising prognosis for managing its mental illness.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert Psychiatrist and prescribed Lithium man therapy, and reported to the census in court that Robert had been cooperative throughout treatment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Psychiatrist also testified that the chances of Robert engaging in future criminal activity would be greatly reduced by the ongoing treatment and continued therapy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In August, the Alaskan Supreme Court concurred that Robert's sentence was excessive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Given the theft of the chainsaw to nonvolve any physical aggression, threats to a result in any physical injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert was released from prison after serving only the year, but surprisingly, it was not court order to take his medication.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Following his release, the renal-year-old Robert applied for a pilot's license.

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[SPEAKER_03]: However, as he was taking lithium in the application was rejected,

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[SPEAKER_03]: The long dark nights of Alaska's freezing winter spent that entertainment was limited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The men who worked on the pipeline during the day spent their nights frequenting bars and brothels to help pass the time and seek out female company.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to Alaska, you continue to visit downtown Anchorage, and there are hours of the morning to engage the services of exotic dancers and sex workers, or see preferred to call them bad girls.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Romance preferred sexual activity with sex workers was to have oral sex performed on him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who something he later said he would never ask his wife to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: After all, she was someone he considered a good girl.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Robert's mind, good girls didn't perform certain sexual acts, even on their husband's.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was something only bad girls did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Christy Hayes was a sex worker and exotic dancer at the embers far in Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm over fourteen, nineteen, seventy-nine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She met a man at the bar and agreed to a day with him when she finished her shift.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man paid her one hundred and ten dollars for sex.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Once she finished work, they made their way back from the bar to a camper, with the man embarked outside.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Prior to getting inside, the man asked Christy if she wanted to take an airplane ride with him, Southwest of Palmer, forty-five minute drive away, but she declined.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When Christy climbed into the camper, she noticed a number of animal first and rifles.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Undeterred, she's trembling again, but the man kept his clothes on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Suddenly, he pointed at a three fifty-seven magnum revolver in her face and told her to cooperate, saying,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to hurt you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I just don't like quickies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Man bound Christie's feet and hands with guitar wire.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sheldron to the bunk of the camper, blocked her and signed and drove off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Christie started shouting that she needed to get home to her kids and managed to free her hands and feet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When the man noticed this captive was free of her bindings, he slammed on the brakes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: causing Chrissy to fall to the floor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man pointed the gun and Chrissy from the cab of the camp or before moving to the back door.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seizing her opportunity at escape, Chrissy's

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man approached the window of the cab, saying he didn't mean to hurt her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Christy demanded her close back, but the man responded by punching the driver's side window of the cab, chattering the glass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chrissy escaped out the passenger door, running naked and bleeding down the street.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Brightingly knocking on the door of nearby houses.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She left her clothes, including a blue bag with her dancing costumes in the camper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chrissy described her attack risk approximately forty years old, five foot ten with brown hair, wearing a plant hunting jacket and shirt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When APD attended the scene, they found tire tracks and broken glass or Chrissy stayed in the camper and stopped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But nothing else came over report.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was Robert Hansen, who agreed to be interviewed by a V.D.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that night about the assault on Christy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert denied having abducted Christy or threatening her with a gun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He told police that he may have a few months earlier at the embers far, and given her right home one night when she finished her shift.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert claimed that during the right home, he stopped the camper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Christy performed a consensual rule sex on him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He stayed in that sheet of man in seventy five dollars

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[SPEAKER_03]: for the service, and given this had been discussed previously, he refused to pay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Barbara claimed that Christy became angry and started screaming at him, so he threw her out of the back door of the camper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No further action was taken by the ABD regarding Christy's allegation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Barbara was in question about the broken glass at the side where Christy said the camper had stopped, and Robert had bunched the window.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nor was he asked about the clothes Christy claimed she loved in the camper when she escaped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: On July, second, nineteen eighty, twenty-four-year-old sex worker Roxanne Eastland was reported missing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like many other sex workers, Roxanne and use daily assists, was also known as Karen Lee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not much is known about Roxanne, but she came to Anchorage from Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Prior to her disappearance, she and her boyfriend have been staying at the budget motel on Spender Road in Anchorage for two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was last seen on June, twenty-eighth, near fourth avenue, in downtown Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where was said she was to meet with an unidentified man?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Roxanne was never seen again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: September seventh, nineteen-eighth, was the last time anyone saw a forty-one year old least of you trawl, was also known as Betty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now much is known about Lisa, but she relocated to Anchorage from Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Worked as an exotic dancer had them great alaskan bush company.

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[SPEAKER_03]: also the year that Robert Hanson reported a burglary at his home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He told his insurance company that

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[SPEAKER_03]: assaulting insurance claims saw Robert received thirteen thousand dollars, which he used to open his own bakery in January, nineteen eighty-one, situated on the corner of ninth avenue in Ingres Street, the business proved to be a roaring success.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone in town including officers of the APD, bought their donuts in coffee from Bob the Baker, as Robert became known.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Women who had gone missing from Anchorage, twenty-year-old Malai Lars and Disappeared in June, nineteen eighty-one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing further has known about Malai.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or how she came to be reported missing to police.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty-four-year-old Andreol Teary, grew up in Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The daughter of the Brahman internalist in Hawaii State Senator, Mason Altieri.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Andreol moved to Anchorage when she took off exotic dancing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was known as a tough girl.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She sometimes went by her sister's name of Lisa, or the nickname Fish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She danced under the name of Enchantment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Andreol was last seen taking a cab to the bottom of this mall in Anchorage at eleven pm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I identified man for a photo shoot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was never seen again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Forty-two-year-old rubber hands installed some money left over from his insurance claim regarding the theft of his hunting trophies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So in January, in nineteen eighty-two, he purchased the white plane, a balloon white piper super cub.

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[SPEAKER_03]: rubber was still unable to obtain a pilot's license due to taking lithium to maintenance just by polar disorder.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he flew anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty-three-year-old Zuluna grew up in Washington State, and could confront others, who loved being around people and making them laugh with her mischievous sense of humor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Zul was known for making faces and doing limitations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was remembered to be especially good at impersonation of Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones, piercing her lips and strutting while singing satisfaction.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She worried about Sue's safety and tried to convince her sister to carry a weapon for self-defense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Sue didn't see a need.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even after hours, the streets of Antichrist were busy with people looking to have a good time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If anyone opposed risk, they would be plenty of people around to come to someone's aid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sioux found a combination at the Sleeping Lady of Armets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Along with a roommate, she worked the tuted tent shift, says an exotic dancer at the good times far, in downtown Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At the bar on May twenty-fifth, Sioux met an unidentified man whom she agreed to meet the next day, had all assist Sioux ten restaurant, and the understanding that she was to be paid three hundred dollars for an hour of sex.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A May twenty-seven for Burdo went to collect Sioux from her apartment so the sisters could spend the weekend together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: with Sue, wasn't there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Her roommate told Roberta that Sue hadn't turned up for work on May twenty six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She hadn't seen Sue since she left the apartment that day before in a taxi.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A May thirty is nineteen eighty two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Roberta reported Sue missing to the APD.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty-one-year-old Exotic Dancer, Tamara Peterson, moved from Washington State to Anchorage, where she danced into wild cherry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Last time, anyone saw her alive was August, nineteen eighty-two, when she took a bag with various outfits to attend a photo shoot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty-four-year-old Angela Fetterner was known by almost everyone as Angie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She moved to Anchorage from Seattle to find work in the booming city.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Angie's mother and sister, both knew that she was a drug user, and relied on sex warrant to support both her drug dependency, as well as her five-year-old daughter who lived in Fairbanks in the interior region, the family tried their best to help Angie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In nineteen eighty-three, she promised her sister she'd take just one more trip to Anchorage, then return to Seattle for good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But this wasn't to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Angie's family lasted for her, the February nineteen eighty-three, where phone calls comb stopped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That same month, Angie was reported missing by the owner, operator of Murphy's law, and encouraged for the employed exotic dancers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No official missing persons were for was final with a PD, and the information was

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[SPEAKER_03]: Angie was said to have a day with a doctor, just prior to her disappearance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Her mother Mary couldn't bear to think about what could have happened to her daughter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Telling the media, that was the life she chose.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Angie just couldn't find it in herself to go out and get a thinking job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She did the best she could.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The disappearance discontinued, but twenty-two-year-old sex worker Theresa Watson, who moved to Anchorage from Sacramento, California, and how much is known about Theresa?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was reported to a famous between late April through March, in the summer of nineteen eighty-three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The bodies of three women had been found buried in shallow graves in the wilderness on the outskirts of Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I identified woman known as the Kootenah Annie, twenty-four-year-old Joanna Missina, and twenty-three-year-old Sherry Maro.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The women who had gone missing generally exotic dancers are sex workers from interstate, but not always.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Both Anchorage police department and the Alaska State Troopers were aware of at least four other women in the area who had managed to escape a man who attacked them, as well as women who had disappeared in what law enforcement called the case of the missing dancers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There were encouraging leads from survivors, and no evidence to indicate who was responsible for the other disappearances and the murders.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Our story picks back up in June of nineteen eighty-three, with seventeen-year-old Cindy Pulse and grew up in Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy started running away from home at the age of twelve, and was soon taken in by a pin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By the age of fifteen, Cindy was using drugs, and she eventually turned to sex work to help her survive the streets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: On the evening of June thirteen, in the nineteen eighty-three, Cindy was working the corner of Fifth Avenue and Denali in Anchorage when a man in a green public pulled up around eleven thirty p.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy got in the car and the man offered her two hundred dollars for oral sex.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Once engaged in the act, Cindy's client handcuffed one of her hands to the car seat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When Cindy tried to free herself, the man pulled out a gun and held it to her head while quickly cuffing her other hand.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man repeatedly told Cindy that if she cooperated, she wouldn't get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy was terrified, but fought against her urge to struggle in case things got worse.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they did anyway.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man told her he was taking her to his house, and proceeded to drive through the streets of Anchorage told Arbor Road in the suburb of Maltune, an upper class area not far from town.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They eventually stomped at a large blue grey ranch style house, where the man forced Cindy inside and down to the basement.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was a couch in bars on the windows.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The bare skin rug was on the floor near a pool table, and the wood panel walls were adorned with hunting trophies in the form of mountain animal heads.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The savage and pained expressions on the motionless faces made Cindy skin crawl.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But before she had time to think further, the man stripped Cindy naked, handcuffed her to a chair, and tied a rope around her neck, securing the other end to a coffee table.

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[SPEAKER_03]: casually told Cindy that she wasn't the first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now he'd previously brought seven other girls back to his house.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Usually keeping them in the den for a week or more before killing them, the man raped Cindy on the rug without a condom and orgasm after only three minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He also had been her nipples and sexually assaulted her with a hammer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Afterwards, the man allowed Cindy to use the bathroom, but he followed her, keeping her restrained with a rope around her neck and handcuffs on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy was hopeful at the prospect of an escape route via bathroom window, but she found it nailed shut.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When Cindy returned from the bathroom, the man said her on the floor near the pool table, kept her handcuffed and replaced the rope with a chain he wrapped around her neck four times, securing the other end to a metal post.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She could move around a little, but not much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The chain was tight, and if Cindy moved too much, she'd be choked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Her captor weighed down on the couch to have a nap, and turned on the TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But warned her not to wake him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man fell asleep, leaving Cindy chained up the entire time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By the time five hours had passed, Cindy needed to relieve herself again, and had to resort to using a towel nearby the pool table.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy briefly considered hitting the man with a pool steak laying on the pool table, but figured if she killed him, she'd be left for dead.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if she didn't kill him, she'd wake him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When her captor awoke, Cindy begged to go home and promised she wouldn't tell anyone what happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Instead, the man told her that because he liked her so much, he would take her in as falling to his cabin to have sex with her once more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, bring her back to Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man told Cindy that if she tried to escape or get anyone in detention, he'd kill both her and them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if she cooperated, he'd let her go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He told her he'd take a lot of girls up there for fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he already had an alibi.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As his friends were willing to lie for him, but Cindy and Nushe won't be returning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man forced Cindy to lay down on the back seat of his car, covered up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In the passenger seat of the vehicle, she noticed a rope in a gun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The pair arrived in marijuana field, just outside Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The man left Cindy in the car while he tended to a light plane parked on the air strip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy saw him put a firearm into the plane and fiddle with the seat in the cockpit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She saw her chance, and opening the car door she's spring from the back seat, running as far into town as she could.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The last thing she saw as she looked behind her was the man chasing her, wielding a gun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: shouting, stop you bitch, stop or I'll kill you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A hysterical Cindy ran partially dressed barefoot and handcuffed all the way to six Avenue and flagged down a passing truck.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She screamed at the motorist.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to kill me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And begs him to take her to the mush-in, where Cindy asked staff to call her if him to come and get her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The motorist continued on to work, where he then contacted police.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy meanwhile was taken to the big timber hotel, where she was staying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Deserved by the state of Cindy's distress and unable to calmer down, her pimp took off with a gun towards Merrill Airfield on a vigilante mission of his own.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy still had the handcuffs on and was desperately trying to remove them when police arrived in the big timber motel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy was then taken to APD headquarters where she gave a formal statement and relived her horrific experience.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Despite her extreme distress, Cindy described in detail what she saw on the man's house and basement.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She saw women's clothing in the laundry and toys in the tent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She told the APD that her doctor wouldn't hurt to say nasty things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kid memorized the location of the house in the tail number of the plane.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I were super cub, she also told police that she had left her blue pumps on the passenger side floor of the few expects seat at the airport.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As evidence, she'd been inside the car.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy described her attacker as wiring, scruffy, five foot six inches tall with glasses and a stutter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The nature of her description about the car, playing in the man's house, were so detailed that the police were compelled to check it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy was taken to the hospital for a rape exam, where she was found to have vaginal bruising as well as shackle marks around her neck and wrists.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy told police that during her ordeal she was on her period.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Being a quick thinker instead of removing and discarding her tampon during the assault, she kept it in in the hopes that police could use it to obtain forensic evidence.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy told police, this motherfucker wasn't going to get away with him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I knew I was in trouble, but if there was any chance of me getting away, he wasn't getting away with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: After Cindy gave her statement, investigators drove her to Merrill Airfield, where she identified the plane.

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[SPEAKER_03]: While they were there, a security guard approached police to report that at five, fourteen a.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He had seen a white male wearing a green coat and a cab, running from the plane to a green vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Something about the situation had seemed off, and the security guard wrote down the vehicle's license plate, which he gave to the police.

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[SPEAKER_03]: License play a number matched a green viewic registered to Robert Hansen Listener your call from part one a forty four-year-old Robert was a well-known Anchorage businessman and Evan Hunter who ran a popular vocal bakery

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[SPEAKER_03]: He moved from Iowa to Alaska in nineteen sixty seven with his wife and soon fell right at home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Often going out in his life plane to hunt wild life on the outskirts of town.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By her hands and wasn't home and police arrived to question him about Cindy's claims.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When he pulled up moments later, police noted that he fit in the physical description Cindy had provided.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Police informed Robert of the allegations against him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was shocked, but consent into a police search of his home, business, vehicle, sandplane, as well as an interview.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The search revealed that Cindy hadn't been inside Robert's house and car at some stage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But there was no evidence in the house door car that any rape or physical assault they can place as Cindy claimed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was fitting wall panel in the house revealed the stash of weapon stored in the cavity behind it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But given Robert was a keen hunter and had kids in the house, it was no surprise they were stored in such a concealed way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Volver was recovered by police, but inconsistent with the one that described by Cindy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Another reason in the rest would prove difficult was because Robert's alibi is checked out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: During his interview, Robert told police the nice Cindy claims she was kidnapped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was at a friend's house from five to eleven thirty p.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: repairing an airplane seat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He then visited another friend where he stayed until five thirty a.m.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that morning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Finally driving to the airport to install the repaired seat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert told police that he never met Cindy, and that his family was away in Europe on some evocation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In an attempt to show how absurd he found the whole situation, Robert joked to police.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't rape a prostitute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Day following her abduction, Cindy big grubber out of a line up without hesitation, but she refused to take a polygraph test and when she suddenly left town soon after, the APD decided to take the word of the respective local business man, with a saw on L.A.

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[SPEAKER_03]: by against the word of a sex worker, whom they concluded at fabricated her story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Besides, this was the guy who were in the business where the cops fought their donuts and coffee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sex workers send a reputation for being unreliable when it came to assisting in police investigations at the best of times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But this distrust went both ways.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sex workers and exotic dancers were all too familiar with the judgment and the stain from the local community.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even if police could identify the whereabouts of a woman who worked in a club or brothel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was no guarantee they'd even be provided with a correct name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Many of the women went by stage names, so sometimes you never really knew who you were talking to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For the APD, who's investigative resources were already stretched.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy's kidnapping and rape, serious as it was, was not murder.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Reports made to police by sex workers who had been attacked or victimized by their clients, their fans, simply weren't prioritized.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it appeared to Cindy Volson, at least, that her claims would be treated the same way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The unsolved murders of the missing dancers took priority when it came to police resources.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But no further evidence to corroborate Cindy's account, the investigation into her abduction was officially suspended.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But something about it didn't sit right with the APD officer, Greg Baker, who continued to make inquiries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For officer Baker, it was clear that it was only a matter of time before another young woman went missing in the Anchor area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And only a matter of telling before another body turned up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: September, second, nineteen eighty-three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just three months after Cindy Paul's sense ofduction and rape, road construction crew found decomposed human skeletal remains buried in a shallow grave on the banks of the Kinek River.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When struvers investigated, they found the body of a woman wearing tan boots.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The victim was clothed, however, her jeans were unbund and unsept, and her stripes sweater and bra had been cut in half at the front.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Ramonis of the location was puzzling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't far from where Sherry Maro's body had been found just over a year earlier.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the only way this place could be accessed was by boat or a light plane.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At the end of the odds, the dam from the body was discovered.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The victim was estimated to be aged in early late twenties to early thirties.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She had been raped in the cause of death with the single gunshot wound to the sternum from a June twenty-three caliber bullet, which had passed through her heart with the shell casing found near her body.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The victim had been naked when shot, and then dressed after she was killed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Given the advanced state of decomposition, police had to rely on dental records and manage to identify her as thirty-year-old Paula Golden.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Paula grew up in Kona, Hawaii, moved to Alaska and found work as a secretary in the Fairbanks area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She soon relocated to Anchorage to try her hand at exotic dancing at the Grandalask and Bush Company.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Paula's co-worker and roommate eventually reported her missing to the APD.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sanxia had been seen since April, twenty-fourth when she went to meet a man for a date whom she admitted a bar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was reported that the man had offered Paul at two hundred dollars to meet him for lunch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was adamant that she'd take a cab to their agreed meeting place.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Police were disturbed at the similarities between Sherry Maro and Paula Goulding's murders, and the discovery of Paul's body convinced stage trooper Sergeant Glenn Flothi that a serial killer was stalking the streets of Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The state's roofers established a task force to investigate and link similarities between the reports of missing women and the known murder victims.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But these reports were difficult to investigate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Given the transient nature of the floating population itself, Anchorage wasn't a place for exotic dancers and sex workers settled down to build a steady clientele.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was challenging for police to trace women who arrived in town only to leave a few weeks or months later to see work elsewhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Law enforcement sent to work and educating women in the area about how to protect themselves, especially exotic dancers and sex workers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By September, nineteen eighty-three, fifteen potential suspects had been identified as possibly responsible for abducting, briefing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and murdering a slew of young women in the area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So far, police had visited bars and clubs who were women provided them with names of men, they called bad deeds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Guys who were creepy or just gave them a weird vibe, and made them feel unsafe or fearful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Police conducted thorough background checks on these men.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But so far, it come up with nothing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, APD Officer Greg Baker continued to investigate the abduction and rape of seventeen-year-old Cindy Paulson.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Sergeant Flosey, Officer Baker couldn't shake the feeling that Cindy's traumatic experience and detailed account was not only truthful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But directly linked to the reports of missing women in the Anchorage area, the investigation in the Cindy's claims by the ABD have been officially closed by senior officers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Officer Baker couldn't ignore his instinct that told him that Robert Hanson was more involved and originally suspected.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Unable to wait while more women went missing, Officer Baker defied his superior's and started digging around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Researching Robert's hard copy-bullies and core records from every town he had lived prior to arriving in Anchorage.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In order to determine whether his criminal history was more extensive than first thought.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robert's prior art and conviction proved that Officer Baker was on the right track.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Officer Baker sent hard copies of Robert Hansen's criminal records, as well as a report detailing his suspicions to Sergeant Glenn Flothi, who was ending up the state troopers investigation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sergeant Floathees were a few of missing persons data in Alaska revealed eight similar cases that formed a pattern.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The missing women were in their late teens to their twenties, between five foot four and five foot seven inches tall, and weighed between one hundred and twenty and one hundred and twenty five pounds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy Volson was consistent with his victim, Brofile, and the information provided by Cindy several months earlier, Paul Robert Hansen at the top of Sergeant Floathees' list of suspects.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sergeant Floathe also found that Robert owned a cabin near the site where bodies had been recovered.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if all of them in on the suspect to list, he was the only one to own to blame.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The state troopers began monitoring Robert Hansen's fights and in out of Merrill Airfield, became up with nothing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Though there was still no direct evidence linking Robert to the murders of Sherry Marrow and Paula Golding, the more surgeon foathy learned, the more he became convinced he had found his killer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sergeant foathy reached out to the FBI and quantitative Virginia, for assistance in pinpointing behavioral characteristics that could lead him to their suspect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The FBI was specific in their response.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't tell us about your theories about the suspect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell us about the victims in the crime scenes, and we'll tell you, did it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The book Butcher Baker, the true account of an Alaskan serial killer, explains how world-runowned behavior analysis John Douglas saying this colleague Roy Hayes would, compiled the following profile.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The killer would be an experienced hunter with low self-esteem, have a history of being rejected by women and would feel compelled to keep souvenirs of his murders.

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[SPEAKER_03]: such as victim's jewelry, or even body parts of trophies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They've revoked that the killer was a hard-working, successful businessman, aged between thirty-three to forty-four.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was married to a woman who was likely highly religious or unaware of her husband's activities.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They also suggested that the assailant might stutter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The perpetrator specifically chose sex workers and exotic dancers due to the trends in nature of their work, in the fact that they usually went unnoticed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The abuse of sex workers was a way for the perpetrator to seek revenge on women.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The profile, fifth, forty-four-year-old Robert Hanson, to a D, and then another disappearance was reported.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty-year-old Dalen Frey, arrived in Anchorage from Baltimore, Maryland.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Her parents were divorced, and her ex-military father was an absent parent, who required ongoing care following an aneurysm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dalen, Gord, is an exotic dancer, under the name Sugar, to support a reported heroin dependency, which reported missing in September, in nineteen eighty-three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But hadn't been seen since the previous April.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, Drew first expanded their search of the Connecticut River area.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were confident that the body count was far higher than the three that had been found so far, but the area was so fast and so removed that a full sweep of the area was impossible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Intruvers came up empty-handed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In an investigation that had gathered a significant amount of purely circumstantial evidence, they were close, just not close enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Investigators contacted seventeen-year-old Cindy Pohnson, who had escaped from Auburn Hands in the previous June to see if she could remember anything else.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and they were in luck.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy identified a long bearer rifle known as a Thompson contender as the one used during her kidnapping and owned by Robert and a follow-up interview on September twenty seven nineteen eighty three with Sergeant Flosey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cindy were counted part of her encounter with Robert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I hit the front of the neck like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is tripping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going around with my neck and my neck is like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I hit the front of my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to get this into the head again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember, you can't remember,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm teaching you how to know how to cope with all breaks in your body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to teach you on the chair first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you know, change the hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to teach you how to learn how to cheer up and how to make time for the work of all of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To cross the chair, we'll need one of this in love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of them are praying at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to tell you how to learn how to learn how to learn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to learn sexy things about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, she kept telling me what I was doing that I'd be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She won't hurt me anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that, I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom and then I was in the bathroom

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we need to have a baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the whole time we need to go to the moment we're enjoying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We told him that she likes me so that he would take me to his cabin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would take me to his cabin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would take me to his cabin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would take me to his cabin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would take me to his cabin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look at all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sleep with the tunnel in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone's hiding down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just mouth or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just in the airport, then the passenger sleep in the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then again, breathe out, stop the minutes from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on top of the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the bigger the truck is in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then sleep in the creek, time is in the rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: On September, twenty-nine and nineteen eighty-three, Cindy's friends and evidence was collected by the APD from the hospital.

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[SPEAKER_03]: An October eleven, it was sent to the FBI.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This included Cindy's clothing, samples of her head hair, pubic hair, vaginal fluids stains on her tampon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By mid-December, nineteen eighty-three, the FBI determined that Robert Hanson was the likely source of the semen, found on Cindy's underwear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mullen Forestle was confident that they could link the murders of seven women to the Anchorage Baker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: State Troopers arranged twenty-four hours surveillance to be conducted on Robert.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what they found was concerning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In the early hours of the morning, Robert was observed cruising the dark and streets of Anchorage in his vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By the stage, Robert knew that the police were sniffing around, and investigators worked dogedly to pursue the proverbial smoking gun that would make their case airtight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Law enforcement again reached out to FBI behavior on analysts John Douglas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Foodle Alaska to assist with the investigation, he suggested that police spring Robert in for questioning while forensic officers simultaneously searched his home without knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If all went according to plan, Robert would confess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In cases involving violent offenses, but in a watershed legal precedent for investigative strategy, this was the first time in the history of U.S.

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[SPEAKER_03]: law enforcement that a psychological profile and would be used as the basis of executing a search for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The war for Robert Selman included women's jewelry and driver's licenses, firearms as described by Cindy Paulson, and the one that killed both Sherry Maro and Paula Golding.